Beginner's Guide To The Third Eye
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Beginner's Guide To The Third Eye
THE VIBRATIONAL UNDERSTANDING EPISODE
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In this episode we'll be exploring the Vibrational Understanding Technique, which consists of a variety of transformative personal development and self discovery tools and techniques that reveal the hidden blueprint of our energetic patterns and essence.
Over the past decade Willie Ingram has developed and tested his own spiritual software. Designed to harness energy and frequency to reveal life's vibrational patterns. This understanding has enabled him to help others recognize and harness their own unique gifts.
Our willing participant is comedian, actor, writer, and podcasting legend, Pete Holmes who you might know from his HBO series Crashing, his stand-up specials, or his wildly popular podcast You Made It Weird, where he explores comedy, spirituality, and everything in between. Pete's unique blend of humor, warmth, and deep curiosity has made him one of the most beloved voices in comedy today.
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Once you recognize the universe recognizing you, it gives you everything you want. That's why the constellations have location, elements, direction, all these other different pieces.
KristaWelcome to the Beginner's Guide to the Third Eye, the podcast that delves into the profound realms of spiritual experiences, exploring the dedicated practitioners and various modalities that guide us on our transformative path. Together, we will explore the mystical, the magical, the enlightened, and the sacred. In each episode, we pair seasoned practitioners, spiritual experiences, or healing modalities, and a willing participant to share their experience in working together. We will explore the unique insights, stories, and wisdom gained from their own profound journeys, unveiling the extraordinary narratives that shape spiritual seekers and practitioners alike. My name is Krista Rauschenberg and my work as a healer has emerged from hundreds of hours of certified training, spiritual initiations, direct experience, and deep personal work. I have been employed in the healing arts as a postpartum doula, an advanced Akashic reader, an Akashic breathwork practitioner, and a writer. Facilitating and educating people through their personal, spiritual, and healing journeys is my greatest source of happiness.
ElAnd I'm Elle Larson. I use sound and space to help balance internal and external environments. I've practiced holistic healing modalities for over 20 years, and my work includes Tibetan bull sound healing, feng shui, reiki, and shamanism.
KristaWelcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the Third Eye where we demystify the mystical. On today's show, we'll be exploring vibrational understanding, which is a very special, and might I say advanced type of reading. Vibrational understanding consists of a variety of transformative, personal development and self discovery tools and techniques that reveal the hidden blueprint of our energetic patterns and essence. By utilizing a proprietary algorithm that seamlessly integrates the holistic insights of numerology with Vedic, Chinese, and Western Astrology. This modality offers a profound understanding of your unique energetic signature. The session itself explores your vibrational field, gaining deep insights into both your inner and outer worlds. This includes uncovering your innate gifts, identifying negative patterns, and recognizing the distinct energy you are meant to contribute to the world. This type of reading provides clarity on your behavior and intimate relationships, illuminates your soul mission, and guides you in transforming the karma that you've brought into this life and so much more. Let's welcome our guests for this episode where we take a deeper look into vibrational understanding techniques. Our practitioner today is Willie Ingram, whose journey into the world of esoteric science began with the birth of his first child. This pivotal moment sparked a deep exploration into the lives of America's great entrepreneurs like Walt Disney and Henry Ford, who sought esoteric guidance to enhance their own creations. Through this path, Willie realized how deeply his life had been intertwined with the metaphysical realm since childhood. Initially drawn to numerology and Vedic astrology, Willie immersed himself in these disciplines, guided by an instinctual drive to refine his understanding of his own various intuitive abilities. This discovery provided him with deeper insights into other sciences such as Feng Shui, sacred geometry, and the I Ching, just to name a few. Over the past decade, Willy has developed and tested his own spiritual software. Designed to harness energy and frequency to reveal life's vibrational patterns. This understanding has enabled him to help others recognize and harness their own unique gifts. And our willing participant is comedian, actor, writer, and podcasting legend, Pete Holmes. Who you might know from his HBO series, Crashing, his stand up specials, or his wildly popular podcast, You Made It Weird. There he explores comedy, spirituality, and everything in between. Pete's unique blend of humor, warmth, and deep curiosity has made him one of the most beloved voices in comedy. Welcome to you both. We are so happy to have you. Willie, I'd love to start with you and get a bit of your background. How did this work come to you? And how has it developed over time?
WillieSo yeah, I guess this all kind of started when I first bought my loft And it was like my first step into the real world, I guess the adult side of everything. During this time, I was doing computer science and math and in this industry doing software QA. and I found my first marriage and I had my first son in this loft and interesting enough the law is very supportive for my system and it is actually the reason why everything started in so when I moved and I couldn't stop researching. And I would research stuff that's software related, as well as like, how do I understand the universe so I can get a better concept and apply myself. So from this, I started to review other people that actually kind of sustain wealth, generational wealth. Within this there was a lot of people that's talked about astrology, consultations, intuition. They didn't really call it intuition. This was more like, Oh, I had a dream or like an instinct. And then I fell on numerology and from that, it just kept opening up more and more. And I got a really great teacher with Vedic astrology. Then I get invited to this really I don't say like secret society, but like you have to have the correct birth chart in order to get in and I was accepted among a lot of people. So that was really cool.
KristaWhat that was called.
WillieSo the teachers name is Sanjay Ra and his lineage is phenomenal when it comes to the science and application it's literally like going okay, you have this and this and that happens. And it always happens. There's no like, well, I hope well, let me get into space, right? It was just like this, right? But it was very strong secrets.
ElDoes he practice Jyotish?
WillieYeah, Jyotish. Yes Joches, Vedic, Ishad, they're, yeah, they're similar.
KristaSo it's based on numbers or birth charts?
WillieIt's strictly based on astrology. But it does weave in their numerology. Now, the interesting thing with their numerology is that If you get too much information from one place, it doesn't really balance out everything. And so
Kristamany things, huh?
WillieIt really is. But the key part about it was like when I was looking at some other solutions and this was a five year program you do stuff online and then you go to the himalayas and That's where they divulge the secrets and they do pujas and stuff like this to open your system and then put things in. But their solutions didn't fit something that I had already tested for many years. When I bought my first place and I had my first child, this is when I started to just test numerology, and through that testing, it always hit a ceiling and then this is where I got into more. Intuition. I took a year long class with intuition that was really focused on just working your muscle. Your intuition muscles, very science driven as well.
KristaMay I ask what were you testing or how are you testing? Give us an example of a test.
WillieThe biggest test during that time was I happened to get a connection with the military somebody that was focused on food in the U. S. Navy, and they would always say no. Even they invited me, I'm like, okay let's do this and this. They're like, no. I was like, but you guys invited That's for
Kristahot sauce that you do? Yeah, that's for
Williea hot sauce company. Yeah, Teaspoon Willys. And so I started to look at their first names, because the first names really have to do with business. So this is how this works. Now, let me see if I test or talk this way, if it helps. So it got more of them, shaking their head. Yes. But they're like we can't, we always have to say no, because we have a panel and they decide oh, that's fine, but I will get more information utilizing this system. And so I was testing this and then I was testing stuff in personal life of why I'm friends with this person. Why do I like this? Why do I like this band? What's so great about this song, right? When everybody else was like, this is the worst song ever. I was like, I don't know. I just love it. It inspires me like things like this.
KristaWhat about a certain song did you find and it's what patterns or the type of words or the number of words like what was it that you found?
WillieIt really had to do a lot with the elite person was key because they're driving everything. And then secondarily the title and then when they came out. So it had to do a lot with conception of these pieces. And I got it down to I like this person more so than this song. And then I like this group more so than this person. And then I started to figure out, okay this is how things stack up. So I was able to figure out the process in this actual order. Yeah, so I was testing this and then using my intuition to get a little bit more information.
KristaAnd layered all this information to create this algorithm, correct?
WillieYes. Yeah, so I used to do a lot of this and it would take a very long time. So I started to write extremely simple code. I was testing, business first implementation and actually going out into the real world in this way. Because I was like I don't necessarily have the plan, but I can verify certain things and ask certain questions to see, how does this number relate to them and the different ways that numerology can expand. So it's lots and lots of testing.
KristaIt's such an interesting way to look at the world. I'd love to be behind your eyes and see how you take in information because everything must register in a very specific way for you. Where do emotions come into all of this for you? Do they play a part in it or do you have an emotional response to things and then that lines up with the information that the algorithm can deliver?
WillieThere are certain things that don't want to be true, right? I really want this to happen. I really want this. And so this want is something that really allowed me to. Understand is it want for supportive things or is it want for unsupportive things? Which area is it coming from? Understanding this, allowed me to re readjust myself to say oh, this is the reason why I want, this is because of this concentration, but it's not beneficial for me in these particular ways because it has a downward spiral instead of something that supports while it goes up. So I understood why I was attracted to my first, or why I married my now ex. I understood 100%. I understood why it had to happen, what it did, what it activated, all this wonderful stuff. So really, it's understanding a number and how it interacts and the emotion to it. Is this coming from within and is it supportive or unsupportive or is it external? So the number gives a great idea on how to dig and where to dig continuously. But have emotions involved, right? Because that's how you get the flow of the feeling. That's how the art comes out of the number instead of just saying you're a four, so you shouldn't do that. No, nobody does this. There's a pulse. There's a swing to it. So emotions is very interesting because there's a lot of well with emotions and it crosses a lot of different gray areas and boundaries, but this is where astrology comes into show the details of it. But there's very detailed.
KristaYes, it is.
ElIt's interesting because it's a very, analytical seemingly clinical process, which might be really natural for you. And I aligned with that as well because I feel like I always am analyzing my emotions before I'm feeling them. Also your background in software. Do you feel like some of your natural tendencies in your thought process attracted you to this type of work?
WillieYeah, I think anybody that goes into science definitely understands this part. For example, when I was creating a new sauce, didn't necessarily write down everything. I got into the good mood. I usually put some music on. I'm like, okay, this is the person that's sitting in front of me and this is what they would like to have and Me getting into my creative mode allowed me to create something that was very good and delicious. Now, the way that I did the science to this is that I weighed everything that I just used, right? You have to be in the zone, right? You have to understand what is your zone, how to get into it, and then how to create a stronger muscle, and then you go through it, and then you go back and say, okay this happened, and this happened, and this was the day, this was the time, if I can remember the direction or the concept that I was working with, and this is how it aligned, right? And then see it in the number and say, oh, yeah, there it is. And then within the numbers, it started to create a signature. And so the signature is really going away from being super analytical. To say oh, that's the process. Because everybody has a certain signature and every noun has a certain signature. But there are certain ones that are very special. They just do some very special things. But you really have to, have a good eye for it. But you really have to dig deep.
KristaSpeaking of very special Pete, tell us a bit about your background and experience and what types of readings and healings have you had before doing your session with Willie?
PeteI've had a lot of readings with you, Krista. That's been the bulk of my. experience more or less. I've had some general intuitive readings over the phone, but then Val, my wife and I discovered you and that's been really incredible, obviously. But Willie was the first, it's really nice to see you, Willie, cause we did it over the phone. So I'm enjoying getting to see both of your faces, but Willie wasn't that different. From you, Krista. And I mean that as a very high compliment, when you look at it from a, I'm in show business. When you look at it at a show business perspective, the risk of speaking so confidently about somebody is preposterous that's one of the reasons why I enjoy it so much as I'm like, this isn't just. shots in the dark. It's not like a, not that I'm not a skeptical person, but I enjoy applying a little bit of critical thinking to it. Obviously. I'm like these are big swings. These are big swings. And any moment the floor would fall out. If you said this or that, but you didn't, you said this and you, and then you kept going and you kept going. And both Krista and you, Willie, they're like monologues. I don't know why I'm addressing this from a skeptical place. I guess because most of my friends are atheists. Most of my friends are non spiritual. The comedian friends I have. And when I say it was a monologue, especially when I spoke with Willie, You're a gifted talker. Like you can go. I wasn't guiding him like here or it was, he just was reading as if he opened up a book about my inner world. And that's very similar. I know we're talking about Willie, but that's very similar to how I feel when I talk with you, Krista. It's like talking to somebody who's just looking at a an encyclopedia entry on the inner life of Pete Holmes, which is Very cool. So this is
Kristapretty
Petenew for me.
KristaIt's such an interesting perspective, because what I do pulls it out of the ether and what he does, he's got like charts and maps and yeah, it's two opposite sides of the spectrum, but they brought together. Similar information.
PeteThey did. Yeah. Willie's a little bit more again, everything I'm going to say as a compliment, Willie there's no other shoe to drop, but it feels like being audited, there's paperwork. You know what I mean? It's we have your numbers and we have the data right here. I'm like um, Krista, yours does feel a little bit more ethereal. But it was the exact same kind of information.
WillieSo the thing about numerology, astrology, and biogeometry is that it's all pulled from the stars. One is stationary, the other one is etheric but it concentrates through the stars, numbers actually, like the Arabic, they pulled the numbers from the sky. That relate to the constellations that give the details. So it's two different perspectives but everybody's reading the same thing. like you said, auditing, right? Versus a natural flow state. So it is very similar. And the reason why I want to say this is because it takes a lot of the woo out of things. It's already written. It's already done. We're just acting it out. We're all actors and inside of each other's universe, but we're different characters and pulling off different things to remember certain pieces.
PeteThat was one of my questions for you, Willie, when we did the reading was, you were telling me about words and you were analyzing my name. And you were like this has this many letters and this has this many letters. And then when we got into certain other words that weren't my name, I asked you about like, why would that matter? Like why would a sound matter? If we saw an apple and we decided to call it an apple, why would that be a sacred number? Like the A P P L E, right? And you had a really interesting response to that. I'm worried it's going to be a long answer, but I'm curious. No, please. For your sake.
WilliePlease, because it's going to help describe. Yeah.
PeteOkay, when it comes to things like a a name or a word like squirrel or a name of Peter and I'm also hoping this isn't like a obvious question or something you get all the time, like energy and vibration and frequency and all those things are naturally occurring, but names are human made, like someone made up the word apple. Okay. And I'm with you I can even get ahead of myself and be like, Oh, it's all interconnected and it's not a coincidence or whatever it might be. But I'm just curious, why is it significant? A word, how does a word, which is an active creativity, how does that merge with like a farmula or a scientific understanding? Yeah.
WillieYeah. I guess the best answer to this is the word abracadabra. And the meaning of abracadabra is that I speak as I manifest and I manifest as I speak. And when you look at different spirituals you look at different Bibles offered by different religions. The most powerful thing is sound. Somebody spoke, something rang. In this way. So this is something that's everlasting. So the sound is actually just a result, the sound is the tone, that tone produces structure and that structure has an anchor in this world. And those anchors are the ingredients which are the alphabet. So each one of these build up and it's a recognition, this is where a lot of Native American comes in because it's honoring. I'm honoring the name, but I'm praising the spirit or consciousness in it because it's a contract that says that you are, regardless of whatever you change, you still have to deal with this core blueprint. This is how this part works but you can always enlighten or be elevated to come out but the physical body still remains and that's why there's some, I see spiritual people or divine people that can manifest things at will, and I believe that the reason why they can do it is because they have the correct name. I wanted to bring that up because it is the same. It really is. It's just different channels. People. That's really the only difference.
KristaWhat? Like our free will?
WilliePeople in the sense like your master numbers are very strong and very high. That's the reason why you're able to grab information and pull this way. Versus my master numbers are, coming in at a different spot. Yeah. So with my master numbers, I have a couple of master numbers together and it allows me to Connect to the intuitive world and go back and forth continuously And then small ideas and make them big and then putting those together allows me to channel or articulate This is the reason why I'm running versus with your master numbers they're organizing information to articulate one idea, so it's different levels, but it's the same channel. It's the same pipeline.
KristaYeah, I thought it was interesting that Pete, a lot of what Willie advised you to do in order to create or align and relax, you were already doing instinctively.
PeteInteresting, yeah.
KristaThere was, walking around markets gives you ideas, going and getting foot massages helps you to relax and align.
PeteYeah, I remember the foot massage thing for sure. Val and I laugh because we go to our foot massage place in town so often that the the staff make fun of us, which I'm like, this is not a good business. Strategy guys. I understand it's a Chinese massage place. So there's a language gap. So we can't really have that conversation. So I don't know if they're laughing at me, but they definitely laugh. And it very much seems like you're here again. We can't believe it, but that's always been a big thing for me and my wife. I've been rubbing her feet and giving my dog more attention. Cause I remember you said having a pet is really good for me, which is interesting because having a pet is really challenging for me. I wouldn't say very challenging, but it's not as easy as it is for other people. But me and my dog have been having a lot more snuggle fests and my wife and I have been having more snuggle fests in that specific way. But also keeping up on foot massagers. That's a big difference between you Krista and what Willie does is, well, you Krista told me like practical things, but Willie is very much if you have a decision to make, you should walk to the East on a Saturday in the morning and wear red and green socks. And so it's very it's exactly what we've been saying. Like one approach is the music and one is the sheet music, if that makes sense. One is like listening to the music together. And one of them is like composing music. But they're both musical, but yeah, there, there were a lot of things. The main thing, not the main thing, but the, one of the bigger takeaways from our chat was I was feeling a lot of guilt. I do feel some guilt sometimes that spirituality is very important to me. And then also I'll stay in a. Very nice hotel or something or let's put it this way. I really enjoy it. If someone puts me up in a really nice hotel or flies me on a fancy plane or something like that. And I'm always like at odds with that. I'm like, I don't understand, all of my heroes are essentially homeless, wandering mystics. And I'm over here getting a hot towel. Like, how does this line up? And Willie relieved that without me even mentioning that he was just sort of like, I forget if you said I'm a moon, but you're like, you're a sensitive baby, basically. I like, you need to be nurtured and like held. And the way that Val that's my wife really resonated with that. It's just exactly correct. I present as a very confident what's the word? Decisive person. And that is an aspect of my personality. And then when I'm not I'm all about those weighted blankets and I love quiet. I love quiet more than anything, to be honest. My. Weeks off, I'll go to a silent, maybe not a silent retreat, but certainly a very quiet retreat. But I also like, you know, comfort. And that made me think Oh, I'm not like a status junkie. Cause I didn't think that was it. I'm just a sensitive artist moon type. Do you remember saying that Willie? Like it really. I really blew that up because I was like, I didn't think I was like a, going to the palm and snapping at the waiter jerk guy, but I couldn't reconcile why it means so much when I'm in a nice bed. You know what I mean? Like, why does that matter so much? And I think it's this like salve to the hyper producing tender, but also productive side of me that needs to be balanced. That's at least what I took from it.
WillieYeah, 100 percent because this is your Atmakarka, your soul's perspective, in this particular life, your soul wants to interact as a moon, and moon is very sensitive, it's very emotional, and everything moon, right? Anybody can say, oh, this is what moon or mother means to me, and moon loves these kind of deep, peaceful sounds. The way that I described. This is the king of your vibrational farm, right? The first thing that comes in a better be soft and sensitive, and it has to have this sensitivity to it or this receptiveness to it. Now, the interesting thing with your moon when we look inside of the chart, it's in the 8th house, so the eighth house is sitting in Aries, which represents the moon as going too deep with things, right? So it goes very deep, but it's very quick because it's Aries. So it's here and then boom, it drops off. You're like, where did that go? Because in your world, this is pure wealth. Wealth is emotions. Comfort is emotions and we talked about how the moon sitting in Aries, this is something hot. And this is where you brought up your like I was like, get in the hot tub. It means everything to you. Versus somebody else that doesn't have this on my car. Cause they're gonna be like, I don't care. Get rid of it. You're like, no, I'll do anything to be a part of something that has this warmth Elements are very key when working because the more basic you can, the easier solutions come around, so even if you're physically unable to hop in the hot tub, just turn on something that's, you can hear fire or see fire. Because the moon is looking at your second house. So this shows that to be happy. Just always have fire on. Because the fire is transmuting. The reason why they do pujas and offerings, these are fire ceremonies, and they throw different ingredients in, is because they're transmuting unsupportiveness. Instead of running and doing all that karma, they can transmute it. So when you're seeing stuff, the mind is saying, oh, I'm burning up the BS, or I'm heating my system to burn up the BS. Instead of trying to make the mind big and say, I want this and I want that. No nope. The boundary is that I need to have something continuously on, so I'm always understanding how to balance my system. Speaking and teaching in any particular way is going to bring success, happiness, and honor And we know that GOAT likes to be up front in this project, because they like to shine in this comfort making people feel comfortable. This is mothering. I want to mother everybody. master number 22 is taking small ideas and making them very big. And these are like worldwide businesses or religion or politicians, Master number 22 always grows. Always. They're just divine beings that come in and they build we're just here to build big in this way. And it gets activated through the total amount of letters that you have. Which is the, energy, right? The total amount of energy you can contain, and since it's universal karmic, you have to go do things, even though sometimes you don't want to go do things, the universe is saying, Hey, you signed up great. I need you over here to make people's emotions swing. Does that make sense?
PeteYeah. Never considered myself to be mothering. The comfort thing is so right on and I don't know if you know, I'm a comedian and I I've never thought of myself as mothering the audience, but I'm so happy when everybody's, and it benefits both of us. Like I'm happy that they're comfortable and then I'm comfortable that everybody's comfortable. Very mothered. I never considered that.
WillieYeah. Because people with a moonus and then our moon on MacArthur, just give them a comfy blanket. Because that relaxes them.
PeteYes, I I'm such a hot tub sauna person.
WillieYeah.
PeteLike I'm just, I love extreme. I also just want to say that thing you said about being big. Like when I say something, it's big. that's really, really resonates as well. That's just a big part of my job too is like deliberately turning it up. Like an opinion or a feeling or, like it's so much more interesting to me to stand firmly. I'm not a combative person. But to delight people, or to entertain myself I'll plant firmly in that's silly, or that's stupid, or that's great, or that's wonderful. Because I don't want to be dull. Like I hate being dull. I'd rather be big. Yeah.
WillieAnd Venus owns your second house. So going to where there's always a city or city concept or gatherings Instantly increases that power of kicking small ideas and making them big so if you're like, I need to do some research, I'll say, Oh, go walk around some market, literally some market and you'll see things. And it will continuously show because once you recognize the universe recognizing you, it gives you everything you want. That's why the constellations have location, elements, direction, all these other different pieces.
PeteThat did blow me away. I think I mentioned this, that our hot tub got devoured by gophers and I replaced it immediately. And that made no financial sense. It was like irresponsible. Like we shouldn't have done it, but I didn't even think about it. And it's not because I like looking at it. It's because I'm in it. several times a day, every day. And we had to install a concrete slab. So gophers wouldn't get it again. And I was like, Oh my God, this is such a huge priority for me. I also set it to one Oh six and no one can get in it. And I just don't understand. And they drop it to a hundred and I get in and it actually enrages me. Not really, but like inside I'm like, what is this middle of the road two degrees hotter than your body is? What is the point? Oh, I can't wait to warm up two degrees warmer. Val laughs at me. I go, I love getting real hot. I also love getting really cold, but that's only to get hot again.
KristaI love that. No one can get in it.
PeteNo one can get in it. Although my daughter, who's only five, she'll get in it. And I'm like she's been weaned into the program.
WillieThe other great thing is that. By doing this particular activity, it actually increases friends and wealth in this way. your Jupiter's there exalted. So there's a teaching that comes in. There's a strong teaching when this happens.
PeteI would agree with that very firmly because I've already mentioned how much I love being alone, and I really do. And I love being with my family, obviously, just as much, but it needs to be balanced. And I've given this advice to people before where I'm like, look, if you're like me. And I'm very gentle and I'm sensitive. My wife, we're both highly sensitive people. So we're very courteous to one another. So I can't say really, this is my problem. She would be fine with it. If I did. I can't say to Val, I'm just going to go be alone for an hour, but I can say I'm going to go take a sauna and that's zero issue. So it was like find The way to ask for what you need. And if you make it an activity, by the way, people who work out, people who do yoga, people who smoke I just got to go have a cigarette. They've all figured out what they really need is a quiet, I'm not advocating smoking, but I'm just saying they need their time. And that, that's the enviable thing. So like a sauna is a sauna, but really it's like this. Sacred. It's like I'm a cell phone and it's like plugging the cell phone in.
WillieThat's what it feels like. Fulfilling your soul because it's McCarcas is the soul fulfillment. I should say this on McCarca by itself is the challenge of the soul, the way the software reads. It says, okay, how do we benefit though? It's always asking, how do we benefit? Yep. That goes down, but what makes it stay neutral? How do we pull it back this way? And that's really the key. So repetition of this is very key. There's other ways that, Your moon on MacArthur looks at your 12th house, which also represents, and there's a lot of things going on with the feet, which is great. If you don't like people touching your feet, great. Get awesome socks. Yeah, that was
Peteanother one, Chris. It wasn't, I talked about how I'm obsessed with good socks. And I just thought that was like a weird thing that shows up for men in their forties, but that's super important to me. And also Willie, I noticed that my hot tub, when I sit in it I had been facing to the East without you telling me, and it's pretty in every direction. That's a weird flex, but it is pretty in every direction. I just, I was always looking towards the East.
WillieSo that's perfect. Because the way that I test things to get to this particular kind of articulation is understanding like what the noun is or what are we talking about? And then understanding what's the root that's driving this. And then what are the small little increment things that I can do to slowly benefit. And then once that happens, my system wants to do this because it, it gives a full spiral up, it's connecting instead of getting lost in emotions.
PeteCause you, said feeling completely out of control is a big part of. Val and I, most of what Val and I talk about is how we're feeling because it's constantly changing. And if I feel one of my little mantras is if you feel like working, do it. You have to do it because that's as good as it gets. If you feel a little bit like working, it'll never get stronger than that. So just go with that. That's this huge signal because I don't know, they're just whole days. I'll set aside a day to write, let's say. And I'll just wake up and it'll be like, it's a huge no. And that's not just procrastination. That's like a familiarity with it's not there today. And then I'm one of those people that sometimes wakes up in the middle of the night and has to write because it just showed up. It's really inconvenient, but you're just like being blown around by your emotions. That was another reason why this was appealing was like these types of things can maybe stabilize, can stabilize that.
KristaWhat would you say can benefit Pete to help him stabilize so that he can be in a position where he can create and how would you go about determining that walk us through a little bit of the process?
WillieMy next question would be what are we creating but if we're just talking about general creation this really has to do with the 5th house, So the 5th house has to do with mind intuition practices, but they're More spiritual practices in this particular way, but it's these kind of aspects, this is the area that I would look for creation. So his actually goes to the 12th house, so the 12th house has to do with feed. It has to do with things that are foreign. And it also has to do with in particular with him the number 4, which is about facing the direction, but it's order. I would have him on Saturday creates the title of what we're creating, right? And then the steps, and then within those steps, fill out this information, but go to a place that is foreign, but does a very good job with structure, and it could be something like with him in particular, it's Leo. So go to a place where he feels like he's King. And it literally is as simple as let me go to the foot massage place, because even though I can't hear what they're saying, they treat me this way. And I like how I'm being treated this way, right? And or go to a place that activates your feet. Something that's more hot. Because it's in Leo, I'd say go walk on the sand. It's this kind of activation, but not too intense. Because with Pete's mind, it sits in Capricorn. So it's hard working, it's like climbing up the mountain, continuously climbing, right? And this goes to the 12th house. So anytime something goes to the 12th house, but Saturn's very good with the 12th house. So there's loss of something there has to be loss or foreigner and or hospitals or alone time or away time. These things start to come up, but we want to do things that are in order to what the creativity is. And even how I do my creative piece. I'm like. I'm just going to go with my flow and then I'm going to go back and organize so it's this type of process because what it does is that inspiration will come in while you're in the flow. And then when you're coming back, you'll start to recognize it and say, Oh gosh, that's this. And I felt like this. And that feels like when I'm like, this, doing this. Or if I'm interacting with this person, I keep on feeling that same underlying tone, because all we're doing is trying to get the body to remember the support here, because the body is very good at collecting. It's excellent
Kristainformation.
WillieInformation. It is the best one to one thing. There is that we have to test. There's nothing better than the body. So like each organ holds emotions, it also holds sound, color. Everything, it holds everything, but it's literal. It's the most literal thing that we interact with. So when we're working with the feet, the way that I review it as I would to get a little bit more detailed, if he was like, okay I want to know exactly if you could do one thing. I'd say, perfect. Send me a picture of your feet and I'll tell you which. But in which toe to apply a green that you like, right? And then we would activate this screen and you put it on this particular day. And this is what you would watch character wise emotion, this kind of thing. And these things would increase in this way. So
Kristawhat would the outcome be of that?
WillieThe outcome would be that it would solidify the vibration within his physical self, which would then radiate as he does stuff. Oh, his is walking, right? If this is something that she would be open to be going to a spiritual mother and touching her feet, because when you're honoring somebody, you always bow and you're bowing to the light in them, but you're bowing to their feet because you're saying, I am here at your service. And the person could literally have nothing to do with spirituality. It's Oh my gosh, thank you, doctor, for saving my son's life, there's this unbelievable respect and it's always at the feet and his has very strong aspects with this.
KristaSo if he were to go to a mother guru and bow at her feet, tell me what that would then create in him.
WillieSo it would spark, it would create a very strong spark that he would never forget it's a generalization because the will is his. Willie said this person, but I like this person. So there's this buffer. And it can literally be like, I don't know why, but I really like this book I read where this mother was very fantastic. It's the imagination that only limits us on how much we can interact in this way.
KristaCan your work advise on anything? I know you can look at where to live and probably what food to eat or to avoid. How specific are you able to get and where is it limited?
WillieSo since the universe. I should say universe in humans, really, they ID everything, everything's ID'd. So when we're looking at the flow of Mother Earth there's always a status and a progression of something. And through this flow, she's trying to tell us how we should do things, and even where we're talking about spirituality or religion, they always have a hierarchy, this person's the highest, and then these are the people underneath. Regardless of their people, angels, spirits, what have you. And anytime something new comes up, it has to be ID. Even if it's a number with letters, there's some type of tag because it has to fit into space. It has to fit into its seat. And so really the limit is, it's pretty open. There's, I don't know. I haven't seen a limit yet, except for whatever their will is. But really everything is ID. So since everything is ID or has a color. a direction, a shape, then it can relate to all the different esoteric sciences.
KristaThat makes a lot of sense because I've never had an experience in reading the records where I've asked a question and haven't gotten an answer. It's all there.
WillieAnd the part about it is that with numerology and astrology there are two different sides of the same coin. And so diving more into one, you're going to lose the other aspect and vice versa. And you have to understand both of them to be like, This is how your coin sits perfectly,
and
Williethat's what you call like a solution, right? It's oop oh my gosh, it's sitting there, awesome. This is how it works. And then it just takes practice or remembering. It's really remembering because everything that happened is between zero to nine, so somebody has a supportive number this year. That root year is something that was very supportive for them or something happened, even if it was like, Oh, my gosh, this unsupportive thing happened. And then the solution came and it comes quicker. So they have the tools to then apply it. So then they don't feel lost.
KristaCan we talk a bit of master numbers? Does everyone have them and are they always beneficial? And do they predict certain outcomes or paths for people? How do they work?
WillieSo everybody has a number. Everybody has asked number. It depends how prominent that number is. There's certain equations and numerology that are prominent, and these are what the life is derived from. But whenever I look inside of some of these astrology chart, that's master number is there, but it might not be prominent.
KristaSo Pete, for instance, to get more specific, talk about how his master numbers relate to his. current situation his life now.
WillieYeah, so basically with him, it's unique. And the reason why I say this so when I when I did your numbers, It was like a plus B equals master number prominent in a prominent position. X, Y and Z right? With his is that the year that he was born is the year of the goat, and this has a focus. Specifically on his third house, and so with this particular focus, his master number 11 is there, so the year activates the detail of the actual house. It acts like a master number, it acts like this, right? So third house is doing things with your hands, short trips, brothers, siblings, it's courage and effort, but it sits in the house of Scorpio, which is the natural esoteric science. So this means like, oh,, I want to touch stuff that has esoteric science. I want to touch stuff that is very deep. I want to touch stuff that's very secret, give me the secrets, give me the secrets and this is one aspect of his. And this is based off the year he's born. And the other part is that his ascendant has a master number 33. And this is the teacher and communicator. If there were 10 people on stage, and he started speaking, this match number 3 would act like this and people would listen to him rather than other people, because master number 33, they have a voice and people listen, regardless of they like him or not. It doesn't have anything to do with that. It's that his vibration is the communication vibration. It is the teaching vibration, everybody has their different one. So it comes in this particular way. And with these together and like how things happen within his chart, it gives it like this flicker. So it it activates it and this way, but it's unique because It's something that you have to work with a lot to understand.
Kristaand Pete, does that resonate with you?
PeteIt's very flattering. Of course,
Kristaflatter you. It's very, It's very sweet.
PeteYes, absolutely. It is self serving to agree, You know, we were talking about depth and sensitivity and I'm an Enneagram three and a four pretty much tied. And that lines up with that. I don't know if you guys like the Enneagram at all, but I really like depth and I really love secrets. And my spiritual practice is very like, get to it. I don't want shrines and I don't want beads. My current teacher is Rupert Spira and he's a potter who teaches the non dual understanding. And you can tell he's constantly over and over refining it like rocks in a river. He puts out, I would say this to his face. He puts out very similar books every year. Because he's trying to refine it, distill it, distill it, distill it. And it's honestly the most exciting thing in my life. I get up really early in the morning just to have alone time and read that. But more than anything, I'm like just tell me what's going on here. Like what reality is. And then obviously the second part as a comedian. That is not always my experience. I mean, I've, I've obviously had moments of losing people and stuff, but I also have found a flow of getting people to listen and focus on me. And I've been in situations with other people on stage and have had that experience. Even though that sounds like a brag, that does resonate with me.
KristaNot at all. It's an energy thing.
PeteYeah. Yeah. It feels good. What's interesting is the more I've been doing standup for 20 years and now I've more than 20 years actually. And I've started doing jokes about the meaning of life. And that's a really weird thing to do in a comedy club. So I was just in Pittsburgh and there's, about 50 minutes into my set. I just do a five minute thing about, Awareness. And it's really uh, it's the most exciting part for me. I really get locked in and I'm like, this is super weird to people are drinking and I've been talking about sex and whatever, pooping. It doesn't matter. Like I've been making people laugh. And then out of nowhere doing this thing. And when that happens there's this real claiming of a teacher type of authority that feels really fun to do. But every time you do it, you're like, is this going to work? And then by the end of it, they're clapping. And you're like, And again, I'm aware that it sounds like I'm bragging here, but it's, it feels like I'm aligned in that moment, I got 300 people and they have very different spiritual religious views, but I found a way to talk about something that's really hard to talk about in a way that everybody could feel into, even if it was just momentarily. So that feels like that. It feels like both the 11 and the 33 at the same time.
ElDoes that feel expansive for you? Bringing that aspect of awareness into your comedy?
PeteYeah, no it's the most exciting thing that I think I do. It's very exciting. Meaning I love to um, kill. That's our term for do very well, but something about it. I actually say, before I do it, I go I think about this stuff so much. It would be dishonest to not talk about it. So I'd give it like this disclaimer. And I really mean that meaning if you're an orator. And 90 percent of your time you're thinking about that might be an exaggeration, but you're reading about these things. You're thinking about these things and your life has been transformed by these things. And you get on stage for an hour and 10 minutes, and you don't talk about it. There's actually almost a violence to that. There's like a deep insincerity and a betrayal. And there's no there's what's that to me? Absolutely. To me, but it's also, in my. worldview. It's all just us anyway. So I'm not trying to change anybody. I'm really just trying to hit a really fun symbol or dance in this fun little way without an agenda. I don't want to sell a book or I don't want anyone to be a card carrying member of my belief system, but in that precious sort of eternal space that you create in an absurd. place. That's my feeling. If they're deep frying chicken fingers, I'm not talking about meat politics. I'm just saying it's not a place for those types of conversations. And then you do it and everybody is just locked in and there it can be very exciting and enlivening and also very honest to me. It's similar to a sexual identity. It would be like being in the closet. And if I just was lying and there are comedians and I love these comedians that were ashamed about being gay and they would lie about having a girlfriend or whatever. And then when they started talking about being gay. I can't claim to know what that feels like. But now that I found a way to talk about divine truths in a really em embarrassed way and in an em embarrassing way, that is the thrill of my life.
KristaI think the world is changing too, so much that there's. It's an aspect where we're all craving it or that part of you is growing, but it's growing in all of us. So you're connecting to something so much deeper and richer in all of us have it. Period. I
Petecompletely agree to that. I think there's Rupert Spiro would say there's a ripening, like people are, I think the internet has a lot to do with it and maybe, I don't know. I think. I was just watching that movie, My Dinner with Andre, and I really liked it. And, I've seen it before. And they're, it was made in the 70s. And they're really blowing open so many incredible things. It's still a mind blowing movie. And I'm like, that was as mind blowing as they could get then. And that's incredible. I'm not taking anything away from that. And what a privilege to live in a time now where if we had a My Dinner with Andre movie, they would certainly start talking about it. Consciousness. What is the nature of the knowing with which I know my experience? That's the big question because we're gorging on stimuli, stimuli, but we're not really sure what is taking in that stimulation. And that's the last great question. And people are really engaged with it. So to take And I'm grateful, happy, excited to take some credit away from myself. I really do think it's a kind of smelling what's cooking in the culture. And that has a lot to do with the availability of these teachings and our receptivity to them.
KristaAnd to be in a position to stand up on a stage and be in the teacher leader. Pioneer role of guiding people home to themselves to, being the example, that's gotta be so enriching.
PeteIt is, a lot of my friends, because I grew up religious, a good number of them are pastors and in the clergy. And I was just talking with one of them about how much it sucks that they can't express the full spectrum of their feeling. They can't address their doubt. They're not allowed to change or morph or contradict or be human. And they're also not allowed to lose their temper, or be angry, or be sarcastic, or be snarky, or be mean. One of my favorite lines of Richard Rohr, another great teacher of mine who's a Franciscan, he says the word nice isn't in the New Testament. The entire New Testament, the word nice isn't there. And the fact that we've turned Christianity in particular, the kind I was raised with, pretty much into an institutionalized being polite. Appearing very genteel. There's nothing wrong with being polite and there's nothing wrong with being nice, but I really do not think that is the sort of message that gets you crucified. You know what I mean? Be a cool hang. That's not the sort of thing that people rally against and murder you over. You got to get a little bit trickier than that, or a little bit more juicy than that, to be honest. But It's not just comedians. What's interesting to me is what we were talking about me and my friend, I was like, what sucks is cult leaders filled that gap. Like people that have access to spiritual truth, but will say fuck and say shit and address the existence of negative emotion or being horny or sexuality or anger or whatever, or dance or drugs or whatever it might be. So they're this dangerous. Way to fill that void. And I think it's not just comedians. There's lots of people. It seems that are stepping up podcasters, authors, all types of different artists that are going like, I don't want. to be the Mickey Mouse, always cheery, happy, never in a bad mood mascot of a faith. And I'm not saying that with any delight. I'm saying that's a burden that we put on our clergy.
KristaAbsolutely.
PeteBut people are picking up that mantle and I should say people like Richard Rohr, who's in the clergy and is as real and as true and as awesome and as beautiful as it gets. So there's also clergy people that are finding a way to do this. I grew up In a world where that was your job. If you're the pastor, it's your job to smile. It's your job to never stand up for yourself. Never say, I'm sorry, I just need a little me time. I can't come to that dinner. I can't come to that birthday. I'm like, I'm a little burned out. Like, why are you not allowed to say that? It really lights me up. Inside how we confused someone who's dedicated their life to teaching and serving can't also just sometimes not want to go to Judy's birthday party. It's like, why is he a politician, why is it about pressing the flesh? Yeah. Why isn't he human? Especially in Christianity, where so much of the message is fully God and fully human, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. And then we ask, again, I'm saying this in their defense. We ask pastors to be these like sex neutral, calm, smiley, very much, in the same way that we groom our politicians, the right amount of scuff on their shoes, the right color tie, the right smile. We want the Bill Clinton thumbs up, whatever it might be just to like appease and please the most number of people when I'm like, How did we get here from a dude wandering in the desert? I
Kristadon't understand and we wonder why we don't trust them at all,
Peteand again, there's actually something not if I were to speak to, certain, I'm not talking about the far right. religious. I'm talking about just like a more in the middle. I don't want to say normal, but like it a more typical church experience. I would say there's a huge opportunity right now. If you could just open and soften and some places are and get a little bit more real. The message, the teachings of Jesus are. incredible and wonderful and necessary, but it's the like, don't touch your dick thing that nobody wants that anymore. Nobody needs that anymore. And I have a good feeling. You probably touch your dick. If you're saying that. Sorry to make it about that, but it's always sex and it's always swearing. What was that? All
Kristaof a sudden I was like, wait, I have a dick.
PeteGot
Kristaa little confused for a second.
PeteNo, I was talking to the imaginary pastor. I certainly wasn't talking to you, but we've turned it into all the hot button things, sex, your language teen pregnancy, all these things the things that you can see when It has, none of that has anything to do with the fundamental conversion of how you interpret and interact with reality. It's
Kristaalso all a distraction to not being with yourself, not being home with yourself, not allowing yourself to form your own feelings, opinions, path, right? Everything's outside and everything's being told to us what to do. So where did we then. Garden our own and nurture our own and decide our own lives. There's no collaboration
Willieit's taking away the human aspects of everybody and their individual.
PeteYeah, exactly. We were talking about anger too. It's anger and your sexuality. These can be difficult things to cope with, but just hiding them away in the closet or pushing them underwater is a really unhealthy and stupid approach to the human experience when so much of it. is about forgiving and allowing and saying yes to what is the great surrender to what is, including your own flaws. That's my experience. The more that I feel cooked and then I have a moment where I'm frustrated or angry. You just realize like you're part of this sort of dance as well. And you can forgive. yourself, and you can do it in real time. That's so much better than, begging for forgiveness again, from a deity that's outside of you. That's a million miles away from you. That's watching you like a lifeguard.
KristaOne of the first things that came through over and over again, when I started doing this work was make nothing wrong. And the message was that the universe is not punitive. We're not in trouble. We're never in trouble. It is always constantly trying to provide us opportunities to learn lessons and grow and shape and change, but we're never, yeah, it's not out to get us.
PeteKrista I'll say this every time I get the chance to say it, but it's because I know there are so many. Former evangelicals are recovering or confused evangelicals who I don't know, I needed to hear this. It's right there. The sermon on the mountain ends with the prodigal son. I like to joke that's Jesus's closer. And the story is, we all know this. It's not a King, but people think of it as a King. It has two sons. One of the sons asked for his inheritance and he goes away and he blows it. It's, it doesn't say this, but people always assume it's on sex workers and alcohol and, just debauchery, but it is implied that he has like a pirate kind of good time and burns it at both ends. And then he ends up broke alone and working with pigs, which is a very colorful image because this is a Jewish person. So he's working with the pigs. It's a way of saying he's lower than low. So what's really key here. And this is the love of God that is actually so loving that people don't like it. There's a type of yes. And there's a type of love that people would prefer the scornful wrathful God that destroys who we hate and loves us. But it's actually so much more irrationally loving than we would even care to admit that we don't like because the man is down on his life and all he does and this is, I think the genus of Jesus's story. All he does is remember who his father is. That's the whole thing. He just, one day the boy is with the pigs and he goes, wait, my father's a king. I can go home. Now what we've changed because of atonement theory. Which didn't come into Christianity, to weird flex here, I think it's the year 1054. We started getting really obsessed with Jesus dying for us, bleeding out for us, being tortured for us. This is the movie, The Passion of the Christ. We want to like, watch the torture and be like, that was supposed to be me. But you, look at the Prodigal Son. The Prodigal Son doesn't have a Jesus character. A Jesus character doesn't come up to the man with the pigs and say, Hey, I know your father's going to be livid with you for what you did, but walk home with me. I'll let him torture and murder me. And then you can live in the kingdom. That's not what happens. The boy just remembers who his father's and walks in as unworthy and is afraid and ashamed of. As we all feel sometimes and they throw a party. That's the whole message. And that was Jesus's also if you're a history buff, the prodigal son is the most historically backed, like Jesus said, this kind of thing, like a scribe didn't add that. It's not in some of the gospel. Not it's this is Jesus's home run teaching. And all it is, is it's a recognition. It's a T it's like trauma work. Look this way. Just turn your head that way. You keep looking this way. You're looking at the pigs. Look that way. There's your family. You're okay. You were always okay. And what does the father say? You're always with me and everything I have is yours. He doesn't say you're with me now. He says, I'm always with you and every it's in the old Testament. I make my bed in the depths and you were there. I make my bed in hell. You were in there. I make my bed in the heavens. You were there. Where can you go from yourself? You w he was just going back to himself. I'll say that every chance I get, because that's why it's good news. It's bad news. If they go. I'll let him murder me. I know we're supposed to be talking about astrology, but man, I loved, I love saying that makes my day better.
KristaOverarchingly makes so much sense to everything I've seen in this work, everything I see through that lens in the world, Willie, I'm sure it's true for you in terms of what you see.
WillieYeah. I went to an all Catholic school. There were nuns until fifth grade, and they had their sticks not bigger than their pinky, it was actually through this process that I started to back away. The more that I went up the ladder was like, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. But the thing that was interesting was always service for others. Which I love service for others. It's very big in my system. But the service for others was a duty, this is your duty, you have these things you need to get. You're at this level, you need to do this. And then going to college. I was also Jesuit, I took my first class outside of the Catholic church and it was in college and it was on Buddhism. I was like, oh, this is so great. And then I just started to study and research Jesuits and how they interacted with the Buddhist and how some of them actually turned from Jesuits to being Buddhist. And that was always very interesting to me. But the reason why I like the Jesuits, because they are very good educators. Their education is very good, but The way that the teachers then become the priest and how it becomes very stale, and even though that they had a life before they took the clergy before they got put into the church, like, all that, oh, we don't talk about that on this now, it's wait a minute. How can I even ask you as a, an all boys high school hey, this girl really likes me. And what should I do? Like where, where's my support in this area. So when it comes to the thing that really allowed my system to come alive for me was the areas that are the most unsupported for me, those were the areas that gave the most support. It's always when you're down in the pigs, right? You get the most support. It's always that when everything's falling apart for you, you find the most support, and even if the most support is somebody who's using something external to numb things the truth is very strong and they just need time, but the support never dies. I call it support because it's beneficial for somebody, but the truth, it won't ever die. It tries to get numbed by different activities, but that's because it's truth.
KristaDo you think that the support is so present? Is it because we're so raw? What do you attribute that to?
WillieI think the cool thing that's happening now is that a lot of esoteric science is coming out and it's being approached better. And I, so this is a funny thing, funny theory. I think it has to do with cell phones.
KristaInteresting.
WillieSo I grew up in the 1980s, right? And it was like, hey, the phone is ringing. You pick up the phone and you're handed the phone that has a connection that has a line all the way to the other person, right? There's actually a one to one, right? I can feel it, I can touch it. It's right there, right? The more that cell phones came into existence, the more of how's that phone working? How's that phone different than me? I'm connecting to the universe. So is that phone connects at a certain frequency, which relates to this tower, then goes back to this tower, then goes back to the hub and kicks over. And it says, Hey, I'm contacting Willie and his ideas. X, Y, and Z. So how's that different for me connecting to something divine? Even if it is something that is a deity, that's never been talked about as it has the structure as the words and the mechanism fits my vibration, right? The more that we get away from actual old school 1 to 1 versus wireless, it's the same that we've always been. We were wireless, and then we went one to one, right? And now we're becoming wireless again, and technology is doing this funny thing of flipping in this particular way. And information is unbelievably fast these are just like downloads. Like little people are going and saying, Oh, I'm going to review this and this. Hey, did you know this and this? Then I'm going to review all this stuff, right? Because they know what they're looking for, especially when they have this type of number. So we're coming out of a long, it's called like a Kali Yuga, but we're coming out of darkness. And darkness always has a tether on something to say, see, this is why you're bad, because you're physically with this physical thing. Versus the story of, oh, I'm here, but I remember truth. I remember truth because then that becomes holy or becomes sacred because you're just remembering you're changing your frequency and the frequency isn't low. It's high. So cell phones
Kristaor
Williemaybe wireless technology. Maybe you don't.
KristaI like it. Willie, you said something during your session with Pete that I would love more clarity on. You said that matching numbers are divine beings and that they're an expression of God. You said there are mechanisms that work outside of the universe and come instantly and continuously when you know how to interact with them. Can you tell us more about that?
WillieYes. Master numbers. So master numbers are double digits from 11 to 99. And these work special because they're outside of the mundane world. The mundane world is considered zero to nine, so this is what everything has makeup of that as a person, place, thing, or idea. So master number 11 is something that connects the physical world to the spiritual world. And when somebody has this, they have some type of clear, right? Clairvoyance, claircognizance. They have some kind of gift, and they played with it when they were young, but it got established when they were at that master number in their life, so when they turn 11, it's like on,
right.
WillieSo it happened and they could be shocked because of it. And so they'll retreat to their parents to say, Hey, and if they're enlightened to understand, they'll say, Oh, this is a gift. This is so wonderful versus this is bad. We need to stop it. We need to do something here. Because when master numbers get stopped, it creates a very deep type of unsupportive issue within their physical being. So it seems as though they start to have some type of autoimmune disease or something that's, Oh, this is always happening. I don't know what's going on. And then there's master number 22, which is taking small ideas and making them very big, master number 33, which we talked about. It's being able to speak and teach and people just listen. They just drop into their seat master number 44 which you have, which is taking lots of information and making it concise and have a ideal flow. When somebody has this they're always able to access this, but when they know how it becomes. Very powerful. They have this wonderful, powerful gift. And the beautiful thing about it is that the software helps get somebody aligned so they can work at themselves. And this is how I built some of the information that I couldn't find in books where I hit a ceiling on, but I knew was there and master numbers they're hard. When you have a master number, it's like you have the VIP. So you got to rush to the front of the line. So it's taking coal and making it a diamond. So generally speaking, master numbers that are prominent people, they've just had it. Because they're trying to break them open. They're saying you have to lead for your community and do it in this particular way. the reason why numbers are important. Is the best way to jump into anything that is unknown is because in regards to the universe, it's always leaving this concept continuously as it creates, so regardless of whatever type of seed you're working with, the seed has to go down before it goes up, there's different designs and things that have to do with patterns, so if we cut a piece of wood, it has a certain pattern, and this really relates to applied combinatorics, which is basically an equation that can reproduce any kind of quote unquote random pattern, and and when it comes to math repetitions and things like this, I should say the great ones they always say whenever they come out with an equation, it's always something that they found in the universe and they say, I didn't create this It was already here and it was through this right either through meditation or working with the universe or things like this but they're the closest in my current opinion, but they're the closest to the concept of showing how science and spirituality are always intertwined and it can never be separated. So in regards to numbers, with numerology. This is how I see energy in a sense, everything fits inside. Now numerology is, it's fairly simple, the mundane numbers are from one to nine. And everybody has these numbers when you calculate it. And then there's matching numbers, 11 through 99. And then there's universal karmic numbers, 13, 14, 16 to 19. Matching numbers are divine, Beings, their expression of God their, mechanisms that work outside of the universe and come instantly and continuously when you know how to interact with it. Universal karmic numbers are things that we have to deal with that we don't want to. So it's kinda like you're going up a mountain and all of a sudden this tree falls down and you're like, oh, I guess I'm not going hiking today. And you turn around and the same big tree falls down, so you're like, ah, this is gonna be the worst. I don't know how to get outta here. I didn't write tools, right? You're just stuck, but you have to get your way out because you have to get back home. So they're very drastic in how they work. The difference between like nature versus us is that we keep track of details and nature has one mind. So they're always saying, we understand how everything is. They're following their vibration. They're not trying to say today I think I'm going to be a hippo, but yesterday I was a squirrel. It is what it is, this is the mind, this is the ego. The best acronym that I've seen for ego is easing God out. It's saying that I am number one. I am the only one. There is nothing but me. Period. While the nature says we are all one. We all share the same thing. I understand I'm a squirrel, and if I get close to, this type of large pet, it has to eat me, because that's a cycle of life. So the boundaries are understood better than the grayness of I've decided this because of, So the dictionary is a bunch of spells, really. Because we're spelling out how a mechanism works. And another way to look at mechanism when I talk about is just different cars. So when we review your chart, your mind can say, Oh my gosh, I'm this Corvette and it's fantastic. It's red and it just flies. And this part may be true, but you're driving on the country road where it's not paved. So why is life hard? I should be able to go faster. Everybody's beating me and they have a beetle, they're just barely, but they have the tires and they understand where their community's at. So when we review your vibrational farm, we're literally taking out your owner's manual and I'm just saying, oh, this is how this vehicle works. But your driving the car. I'm only in for shotgun for a little bit. If that's what all these signs mean and symbols and things like that, you're driving. It's your will that's going to change anything. Now, the thing that we can't change, we can't rip down a house and restart over. All we can do is update the color and change the furNiture. And we'll describe optimal places, because really, once you find your community, everybody, Knows and helps and the answers are always there. And so the reason why I ask about the house because the house is the most important solution. And the reason being is because Mother Earth she vibrates at a certain level.
PeteSo you literally said the house, we're not talking metaphorically. You mean this house that I'm in right now.
WillieYes, literally the house makes or breaks, and the reason being is because we're living inside of Mother Earth and she has the strongest, strongest energy. And she has the strongest vibration, there's certain things that the planets can do to act like a blueprint, or energy, there's certain things, right? But for the most part, it's if you're looking at a radio station, right? 99 is the energy side, right? That's a numerology side in point one or point 2. 3. That's the frequency. Or oh, I like this radio station because it's 92. 3 and they sing this, right? So this kind of thing, but when you're stepping into a house, the house is a part of Mother Earth, and the reason being is because we always have to dig down to build up. Just like everything else, we have to dig down to build up. I need to change. The world is doing X, Y, and Z to be perfect. Dig down to build up. You have to remove things, but you have to understand who you are first, and where you're supposed to be. So when the house is connected with Mother Earth, I feel at home because everything's trying to feel at home. That's all. And home is everything. Home is the chest, right? This is the fourth house. This is where the heart is. This is our first area that we get to feed, this is where we grow so that's why it's one of the most important thing
KristaThat brings me to the next question, which is some people are born into really challenging numerical patterns, and do you believe that they choose that for themselves? Do you believe that's karmic? What are your beliefs around that?
WillieIt has a form of karma to it. My perspective is that a soul comes in and wants to experience something to its fullest. And that's a part of its life, and this is just one contract it has to fulfill what it's supposed to articulate. And once something, or once that soul knows its articulation, then it's the expression of God or the divine or the source. Because there's something within us that can never be destroyed, and once it's understood and applied, that's,
that's
Williewhen that part's done. I've experienced the full emotions of that piece, so I understand why, how, what, and for me it moves like this. This is how it moves.
KristaAnd that's, far less punitive than the victim, persecutor, savior complex that we all dabble with. Pete, we ask everyone what their spiritual practices are, how they keep themselves in alignment what they know to do. And it's interesting because this session Complimented the things that you're already doing, but what would you say, are your spiritual practices? What do you do to realign?
PeteAs often as I can um, while you're asking that question, just trying to step back away from my thoughts and feelings and perceptions into the nameless field of being. I just heard Rupert Spire, who I already mentioned as my teacher, he's like, you don't just remember the teaching. You go there, like you have to go there as often as you can. So he likens it to if you work in a busy office downtown, but every day you go home for lunch and you go home and it's quiet and it's peaceful and you enjoy an hour at home. He's you don't just think about your house, you go there. So really the most. Important spiritual practice for me, especially if I'm having my daughter through a really big tantrum. Sorry to tell on you, Lila, but she did last night. During the tantrum check and see, is it still there? Is your essential nature still this spacious, limitless? naked, full, only of itself, also seemingly empty, but free of agitation. Is the field that you are just totally okay? And the answer is always yes. So just making it a very habitualized practice to check. I was pushing her on the swing together this morning. Not really enjoying it, it's really hot, I'm sweating, but what is the nature of the knowing that knows that I'm sweaty and would maybe rather be sitting down? The nature of the knowing is always perfect peace. And uh, heaven and then much more practically, as I say I think I look at my day. This kind of has a psychological bent to it as well, which is I look at my brain. My, my being is having four slots. And if I start the day and load the slots with the wrong things obviously there are no wrong things. I'm just talking about optimizing my day. But if it's lack, if it's fear, if it's agitation, if it's stress, it has the potential to throw my entire day. And I do look at these things as 24 hour windows, right? But if you wake up in the morning, you're in that auspicious time. You were just in deep sleep. You were just in that timeless, eternal naked place. So run with that. And while you can still remember. That glimpse of your nature reinforce it with a teacher that you like, read something. I'm not a huge meditator, but I will meditate for 10, 15 minutes. Sometimes longer breath work obviously is huge for me. I don't know why people who love altering their state don't just do breath work more, especially if you just have a nothing day. And, I love the breath work you do, Krista. There's even easier ones. I say that because if I'm really feeling energized, I'll do your breath work, which is the, it's a three part breath. You can even just go like a flowing in, out, in, out, do that for 45 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Because look, I'm glad you understand. Cause I'm certainly not criticizing yours. Yours is I feel good and healthy and energized. I'll do yours, but that takes a certain level of energy and my mind will try and go I don't have the energy.
KristaYou
Petealways have the energy to just breathe in and just try and seamlessly don't have a gap. Just breathe in and breathe out and do it just a little bit faster than you normally would. You do that for 45 minutes. It's very similar to taking a psychedelic. It's very similar. It's very similar to feeling like a giant in a train set, to be honest, like everything just looks very novel. Suddenly you feel like a character in a short story or something. You're just like hyper actually seeing reality. And all you did was breathe and it felt good while you were doing it and your body felt good and your brain feels better and it's good for your health and all this stuff. I think that's another thing that's super important but that's long answer. Checking in as often as I can, not just thinking about my true nature, but trying, not trying, just dissolving into it, settling into it. It's not a, again, a Rupert Spira thing. He's you don't you don't have to unclench your hand. We're walking around being a thing and having thoughts and you just relax it and the hand will just take its natural shape. So trying to check in with your. True self as often as possible. Because that's the only piece there is. And that's not just my opinion, that's literally every spiritual teacher and master of the past 5, 000
Kristayears. But you're going to claim it as your own. But you know what? They won't mind. Oh, amazing. Thank you. Willie, what would you consider your, I can't imagine how many you must have given how many tools you've provided me with, but what would you consider your go to energetic spiritual practices?
WillieIt is always rebuilding itself, but my biggest, my core is definitely spoken word or mantras. Mantras are very powerful for my system. So mantras and certain types of sounds are also very key. I listen to different types of companies that really focus on balancing the left and right hemisphere. Because it is a science but it's really mantra conscious walking, connecting to the weather. And the reason why I'm always rebuilding is because there's some days that I go that are just seamless. And there are some days that are more bumpy. The ones that make me grow are more of the bumpy ones. Because I'm looking to see while I'm doing my different mantras what's coming in front of me, because that has something to say that I need to work on. I'm like, Oh, that's interesting. This comes and then it repeats its time throughout the day in different, forms. So spiritual practice for me is like a, it's very continuous, but it's very deep and personal. It's very deep and personal, but I'm always open. There's nothing where I'm like this is it now, not for my system. But really the weather does such a good job with how you should be sitting in it. It's always telling you what to do.
KristaThe energetic weather. You call the astral plane, the weather, correct?
WillieYeah, so both of them actually. So there's like the astral weather, which is every noun has its weather type. And then there's a universal weather. So a person, place, thing, or idea, right? So if somebody created a business, that's a thing, right? And then it gets an ID. So it has its own weather. So how that weather interacts with the universal weather that interacts with the person that's driving it, right? Myself and or the characters that need to come in, right? There's this astral weather that has all these different pieces. But then there's just literally walking in nature, just walking with nature along big trees.
KristaPete, do you have any follow up questions or anything else you'd like to add?
PeteThe only thing I was gonna add just a good student brag is that I've been doing so many of the things that you told me Eddie and I've been, I'm sorry, Eddie William. I was trying to think of the name of doesn't matter. I've been wearing so much red underwear. I've been wearing so much green socks, especially when I have shows and stuff. I've been getting the foot massages. Like I said the heat I'm trying to think there are other things. Oh, I've been listening. Yeah. You told me the music to listen to. And I have that album, the Monroe thing. I have it right here. I listened to it constantly. The hemi sink meditation. So it wasn't wasted on me, everything that you told me to do. I at least. Have been trying to do, but in most cases have been successfully uh, just made it part of my life and it was easy and it was great. And when you did the house cleanse thing, our yard flooded, like our sprinklers broke and you told me something would go wrong. So something did go wrong, which was really cool. I'm glad it was only that by the way.
KristaTell us, what have you noticed since You've been wearing the green socks and the red underwear.
PeteI don't know. I don't, things have been going well.
It's
Petehard to say like things I've been feeling on an upswing and just been very creative and very balanced. So I can't really compare it to before, but I can say while I'm doing it, that that feeling has been Strengthened and continuing at the very least I could say continuing.
KristaYeah.
PeteSo it's been really fun. And I like that there is like a practical application side of things. It's like a fun little homework assignment.
KristaMy whole life in my home is very willified. It's Eddie,
Peteactually, I'm sorry. I don't know if you know that
Kristaa lot of. My best Eddie antidote is that I had really funny knees that would just give out on me. And I went to physical therapist, Kairos, MRIs, orthopedists. No one could tell me why. And I didn't tell Eddie he told me that there was something wrong with my knees. And the solution, he wanted me to wear purple knee socks all the time. Which I was absolutely not going to do and we whittled it down. We barded it down to, I had to wear purple stickers on both my knees, which I did. And I never had any problems again, which was so, I mean, it was bad. There were some days where I couldn't walk. I couldn't get up out of cars it would give out, I would fall down. It was serious and no doctor could tell me why there was no reason for it. But purple stickers of all things. Yeah. Nuts.
PeteSo cool. That's really cool.
Willie, what do you attribute the success of that to?
WillieSo with numbers, particularly the number seven, this has to do with violet and the support of structure of seven is a square and when reviewing the chart, the area, this had a lot of things going on. Anytime there's a lot of planets in one constellation, like more than two, it creates chaos. So basically when I see this, I'm like, okay, let me make sure this number is fully supported. Now we can apply it in this particular way. So it has the right spot. And the reason why, the knees are focused more about the 10th house, so this 10th house is about work and occupation and this kind of thing. So it's being able to bend when things happen and work, and being able to understand when not to bend, when somebody is taking advantage, so what this 7 does is it 7 is about always about thinking about higher self. Okay. The higher self concepts being open and vulnerable, but having structure to this concept. So when you put the correct number and or shape. On the correct part of the body. It multiplies this instead of what's written in the contract, so we're putting more purple squares because it's saying we're going to do this, even though there's other information that has to come through. It's going to have some type of foundation and stability. And this is the other reason why for the red underwear because it's this particular part within somebody's chart that is supportive and it's very strong and this really relates to Pete's first name. Which has a lot of wealth inside of it, so this wealth part becomes stronger and it's really wealth with external people, also wealth with enlightenment. So this is the reason why, when he dipped into his 33, it was boom, so this is this piece working, but this is how people eventually when they work and they see and they're like this used to be before and this is after then they don't want to take it off and what does it actually do? Yeah. So it's understanding, and then it's awareness, and then it's application, and then after that, you're just, you're wielding, or you're pulling things in you're meditating with a purple square in this particular area, and you're expanding or you're meditating with a sphere, a red sphere within your body, and expanding it, because it's a practice to get back to the mind, which Once the mind is strong, nothing else can bend it. It doesn't matter what comes in.
KristaIt feels like it's a fine tuning. If you're a singer, getting a song in the perfect key for your voice so that you can execute it in the best possible manner. Is it something along those lines?
WillieYes. And it doesn't fall all the way down, it used to go based on mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, and your contract, or your astral weather, and the universe's astral weather but when you actually have some anchors it starts to neutralize itself as it comes, instead of bigger waves, it starts to get tighter, quicker, and then it starts to rebuild, because the majority of issues that people have is In my perspective vibration is the key of something being very unsupportive and it comes out physical or something that's very supportive. People that have very supportive pieces in their chart, those are blessings. Blessings to me is something you don't think about. It just happens. Oh my God, you must have worked so hard to do this. I don't know. It just happened. And master numbers have their blessings. And once you understand, how it works. This is how it works with me. And this is how I'm able to apply it. I use that process to create the spiritual software. That's where these different pieces came in in regards to rooting color shapes, or even sound. If somebody can continuously hit that pitch or have that within their system or put it on their phone, really, the beautiful thing about technology is that everything that I say can be done continuously. I believe almost everybody has cell phones, if I said, Hey, put this tone in here, every time you get a ring or a text, it comes, this would adjust their system to be in their spot, to be in their community, to grow, because some people become very successful outside of their country. The birth date of the country. The United States is a monkey. It likes to figure things out with his hands. It's very smart, but it's very secretive. That's because it's a Scorpio rising and loves secrets and loves occult science. So understanding if I work with a monkey, I better not be a tiger because tigers and monkeys, they don't work together but when they get out to a country that other tigers are prominent, they say, Oh my gosh, this is my community. How could you like that place? They're this, and this, and they don't even like America. It has nothing to do with that. It's the vibration that we live off. So we're always leveraging country, state, city, and even home. So home's the most prominent thing that we can counterbalance a lot. It is a lot when it comes to a supportive home so yeah It's finding your community. To me. That's all life is. But the community has to start with home. So we're talking about breathing. This is the fourth house. This is the chest. This is emotions. This is mother. So somebody that has a moon on Makarika like Pete does, of course, working this area is so prominent, that physical part, and it actually enlightens him because it's Jupiter. It's Sagittarius, which is owned by Jupiter, and that's, a very beneficial house. It always gives. So this is why when you understand your system, then you know, oh, I have to go here, and here. I don't have to do everything. This is the new fad. Who cares? If that fad was created on a date and the noun was beneficial to you, you're going to be like, this is the best thing ever. And it is because it's helping your vibration to then help your physical process. Articulate support. So it's always, frequency energy that then creates the vibration. And your antenna is always saying, come in, the toroidal field is always doing it. No question. Everything is always doing it. So it's understanding that if you really understand yourself and your vibration and there's no other way, because when you understand what is mine, You get to wake up, you just get to wake up,
Kristaso
Williethat's it, but it shows how powerful Mother Earth is, a lot of wake up purely because of Mother Earth, that's our first home, that is the original home, that's why if you have the correct vibration, the correct number, it then makes this home great, because love comes up in this way.
KristaBeautiful. Pete how do you feel?
PeteI feel wonderful. Yeah, this is fun. It flew by. I love what you guys do and I loved my readings from both of you very much so this wasn't a strain in any way, I'm happy to be connecting with everybody here.
KristaIt's been awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for giving us so much. Yeah. Thank you both. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you everyone.
PeteAnd I'll be in touch soon. Guys. Bye. Bye.
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